I Saw A Tyler Perry Film and Didn’t Walk Out In the First 15 Minutes … But Not Because I Didn’t Want To

The Snob went to see Tyler Perry’s “The Family That Preys,” for free, as a guest of a friend. She went with an open mind and that mind was so dulled that it couldn’t cut through Perry’s horrid dialog, shoddy stagecraft and hysterical directing.

I didn’t have high hopes, but I didn’t expect what I got.

When I read how others saw this film I wonder if they were grading on a curve. Or maybe his previous films were so poorly executed that by comparison this one was brilliant. But I do know this:

I’ve watched a lot of black films, many which barely passed as “entertainment.” They were what they were, imperfect comedy vessels produced by hacks, but hacks who understood film, if only on a hackery level.

Perry is not good enough to be called a hack.

Compared the producers and directors of such high black cinema as “Juwanna Man,” “Two Can Play This Game,” “Waiting to Exhale” and both “Barbershop” films, Perry doesn’t even come close. To say he is a hack would be to assume that he understood the most basic, crudest elements of filmmaking on a budget.

And from what I saw Saturday morning, this man does not.

Words cannot describe how much I didn’t like “The Family That Preys.” (Although this review comes close.) The corny, hackneyed mish mash of “Days of Our Lives” and “Soul Food” for a plot could be forgiven. The sickly sweet use of the Lee Ann Womack‘s relatively recent country classic “I Hope You Dance” could be forgiven. Forcing poor Alfre Woodard and Kathy Bates to go through lines as subtle as a hand grenade. I can even forgive making Rockmond Dunbar’s character the dumbest cuckolded man in the history of cuckolds. But I cannot forgive the fact that Perry either does not or refuses to learn the basic elements of filmmaking.

[SPOILER ALERT! If you actually want to be “surprised” by Perry’s been-there-done-that plot, please stop reading. But if you watch this film and can’t see what’s going to happen from a mile out, you obviously don’t consume much fiction, whether as a book, TV show, film, music or long form poem.]

Show, don’t tell: This was the greatest sin of the whole movie. There’s a wedding at the beginning that you never see take place. There is an affair that you never learn any of the “good” parts of — like the seduction, the courtship, the illicit meetings, any allusions of sex or intimacy between those two characters, allusions of any love or lust between the two. All parts of the affair are learned through a list of talking points uttered by various characters throughout the film.

There’s two “children,” one per each cheater. One child you only see via the back of his head and the other is invisible, despite both being mentioned. The history of the friendship between Woodard and Bates’ characters is verbally mentioned, but not shown. Potential for the examination of class/race issues are offered up but never probed. Woodard takes Bates to an impromptu Baptism when there was no lead-up explaining why Bates would want to be Baptized. There are no conversations between the two about life and death, the existence of God or who Jesus Christ is. Just a Baptism out of nothingness, never touched upon, referenced or explained ever again.

And rather than show through better filmmaking why Sanaa Lathan’s character is such a gigantic bitch or why she is obsessed with money, there are jibs and jabs from her sister (who comes off almost equally as bitchy), regular references to luxury items and finally, a blurted out half-assed excuse/motivation for Lathan’s nuttiness when she barks at her mother for driving their father away who apparently abandoned them. This is the first and only reference to the man and how his actions affected their family.

Attack of the two dimensional character: There were only two types of characters in this movie — the good, salt of the earth, working class-to-poor people and the evil, college educated, stuck up rich people.

Does Cole Hauser’s William Cartwright have any motivation to cheat on his wife that we know of? No. Do we find out the nature of his marriage? No. Do we learn why he and his mother have such a frigid relationship? No. Do we find out why he loves or does not love his wife or Lathan’s character? No. Do we find out why he chose to carry on a years long affair with Lathan’s character? No. Do we find out if he had a relationship with Lathan’s character’s “son” (who Perry — shock, shock — outs as Cartwright’s son? No. He’s just evil.

The same goes for Lathan who is a cold, calculating and cackling witch with no explanation. She also turns into an immature, nonsensical woman who doesn’t act anything like a tough, hardworking woman who managed to pull herself up out of poverty and earn an Ivy League education. We don’t learn that she had any love for Cartwright until shortly after the film’s climax. I’d assumed she was playing him for the money given how “evil” she was, but she tearfully blurts out the most trite and cliched, “He loves me. He’s going to leave his wife and marry meeeeee!” bullshit that is even below “The Young and The Restless” standards.

The “good” characters are just as awful. Dunbar’s “Mr. Cuckold” is the stupidest wronged spouse in the history of wronged spouses. He is written as so weak and so witless he defies belief. When he learns his wife has a separate account with more than $280,000 in it and asks her about it, she castrates him telling him he has no business looking at her money and that she gets the cash from “bonuses.”

She also has a “bonus” car given to her by the company and a “bonus” house, also from the company.

Yet, Dunbar’s character doesn’t figure it all out until the very end where he uncharacteristically slaps Lathan so hard that she flies over a diner counter top. While this got a lot of laughs from the audience, no doubt under the guise of “she had it coming,” I was still disturbed as it wasn’t necessary and gives the impression that there is a justification to physically assault another person, especially a woman, if she had it coming.

Wildly gesticulating caricatures: Perry does not understand how you can’t direct actors for film the same way you’d direct actors for stage. Too often he has instructed his talented actors to “overact,” as you would do for a stage play. On the stage you have to make wider gestures to fill the open theater void. Film is an intimate medium. Actors have to dial back so the dialog and interactions seem real. But the actors weren’t dialed back, so they all sounded like cartoons, especially with such unimaginative dialog.

Repetitiveness: Apparently Perry was worried I wouldn’t get a few points, so he had his characters repeat them over and over. For Lathan, “I get bonuses!” From every character to Dunbar about his dream of his own construction company some variation of,” You need to get your head out of the clouds and be thankful for what you have!” Everyone except Woodard’s character, “I need a drink.” Having a fresh from work (and two fresh from cheating) threesome return home needing a shower almost immediately. Largely because Lathan and Hauser’s characters, hint, hint, wink, wink, did the nasty that day. Perry’s character just needed a shower because he was funky from work.

Perry is a lazy screenwriter: I could go all day naming plot devices that did not work or make sense, but if I had to pick one, the most maddening would be how Dunbar’s character finds out about the secret account flushed with cash. He learns of it from a bank teller while trying to make a withdrawal. By this point, he and Lathan have been married for four years. The teller asks him which account and he is confused, asking the teller where the extra account came from and what is in it.

How dumb is Lathan’s character if she didn’t have the presence of mind to open her “secret” account at a different bank? Or if she had to have it at that bank, why would she have her husband’s name listed on it? Because that’s the only way the teller would say “which account.” Because he gave his name only accounts with his name should have come up. Plus, this undercuts the fact that they’ve already been married for four years and we are to assume that he has never gone into the bank to make a transaction not once when his name is on his wife’s secret account.

What the hell, people: Out of all these things I’ve mentioned, I guess my biggest disappointment was with the audience.

I don’t have a problem in people liking and enjoying Perry’s stage plays and films, but let’s not fool ourselves. This is some piss poor film-making and everyone in that audience should have known it. THESE are the same people who saw “Dreamgirls,” who watch “CSI: Miami,” who read “Waiting to Exhale” and whose favorite films are “The Color Purple,” “The Best Man” and “Bad Boys II.” These are people who have seen both excellent cinema and some of Hollywood’s finest hackery, yet they applaud something they have to know is a vastly inferior product when compared to “CB4,” “Hitch” or “New Jack City.”

I can understand why someone would love “Beauty Shop,” the boring sequel to the “Barbershop” films, or “Glitter,” that “A Star Is Born While a DJ Saved My Life” nightmare by Mariah Carey because as bad as those movies were the people making them understood the basic elements of filmmaking. That way, you could focus on the REAL problems of the film. Not get stuck on elementals you should have learned in either film school or via virtual film school — a la Quintin Tarantino, a cinephile who consumed mass amounts of movies as he taught himself the craft.

I mourn what could have been — a watchable melodrama on the subjects of marriage and infidelity featuring black performers.

Seeing actors I like (Rockmond Dunbar, Alfre Woodard, Kathy Bates) and love (Sanaa Lathan, Cole Hauser) wasted in a work undeserving of their talent drove me mad. To have an affair movie with no dramatization of the affair was ridiculous. I wasn’t expecting a dry humping sex scene, but would it have killed him to shoot some passionate kissing, a fall on a bed and a fade to black? Give me the seduction. Give me the thickness of the drama. I want to understand what makes a marriage breakdown. By the end of the film, I learned nothing about commitment, family, love or loss that I couldn’t find in a fortune cookie.

I realize this film was supposed to be some sort of departure for Perry, going with a biracial cast of characters with a grab for serious drama. But he really demonstrated his limitations as a director and it’s hard to “cross-over” when you know that you can’t screen your films for critics. And this is likely because Lion’s Gate, which put out this film, knows it wouldn’t even fly as a film student’s freshman experiment. They know Perry can’t direct and don’t care, because they know black people who know his films are overacted with lots of shortcomings, love Perry anyway and focus on the good more so than the crappy.

So I applaud Perry for his ability to sell his vaudeville to a black movie-watching public who is willing to forgive his egregious sins of cinema because they are so starved of visions of us on screen. So starved that they are willing to pretend like “The Family That Preys” is “Unfaithful” meets “In Living Single” when it’s really neither.

It seems I am too big of a snob for Tyler Perry films. My desire for the film fundamentals of A + B = Basic Filmmaking to be met are so strong that not even the power of blackness can override it.

Try harder.


67 responses to “I Saw A Tyler Perry Film and Didn’t Walk Out In the First 15 Minutes … But Not Because I Didn’t Want To”

  1. Anonymous Avatar

    well I have liked the Tyler Perry films and plays I have seen and I plan on seeing The Family that Preys. When I read critiques of Tyler Perry’s work there is the insinuation that the people who like this films and plays are uneducated/ low class/ghetto; that is simply not true. I don’t see anything wrong with liking all forms of entertainment/ art; from low-brow to high-brow.

  2. Wow, Danielle, why don’t you tell us how you really feel about Tyler Perry? And don’t hold back. Let’s face it, with the exception of Denzel Washington, Spike Lee and a few others, there’s a lot of schlong in black filmmaking. I would guess that while Perry may not have much talent, his movies make money so far and that’s why his projects get produced. You can be the worst director and screenwriter in history, but if people are buying the movie tickets, you’ve got a nice career in Hollywood. Unfortunately, black audiences are less discriminating and will pay to see too many crappy movies, so you can’t blame the studios–they’re only following supply and demand. Danielle, you forgot to mention one thing. Tyler is also a bad actor. He really bites the big one.

  3. After I saw “Meet the Browns” I said I would never go see another Tyler Perry film. Thank you for reinforcing that sentiment and helping me feel better about not making time to see it this weekend. Don’t get me wrong. I love the idea of a black director with the power and financial backing Perry gets employing black actors and telling stories with black professionals at the center, (ie. Why Did I Get Married (outside the horrible scenes w/Janet and Malik). But quite frankly I don't have the two hours or $10 to waste on another regurgitated storyline & considering folks go see anything he puts out, he probably won't miss me anyway. I really did hope for Preys when I saw the cast list and learned that Madea was no where to be found. I am seriously considering taking screenwriting classes and moving to Atlanta to help Tyler out. Seriously. He has resources and an audience most black film makers would kill for & he is pissing them into the wind because nobody will stand up and say "Tyler, that's wack. We already saw that in 3 films."

  4. Oh my goodness, Snob. How long have I spent complaining about Tyler Perry and his hideous “movies”! I have *never* been able to figure out why Oprah throws herself all over him.There’s a lot of reasons I hate (and yeah, I said it, hate) his films. First and foremost is that he appears not to respect black women, or more specifically, black women who don’t fall into the mammy-baffoon stereotype. If you are an educated black woman and in his film, you are either woefully single or in a tragic relationship with a man who does not love you. Either way, you’re messed up and have near-insurmountable amounts of “drama” in your life that only the love of a poor, but humble working-class brother can resolve. This attitude is so pathological in his films it makes you wonder what woman done him wrong in the past–Don’t even get me started on how he conflates being a spiritual black woman with being a doormat/ selfless “giver.” The whole “redemption” angle in the end of a “Diary of a Mad Black Woman” left me outraged for days. Wait, so this dude screws me over, and before I can truly move on I have to take care of his wheelchair-bound, broke-down self? Please. Thanks for the message that to truly be holy you have to go back and help your emotional abuser. Why does a man have to play Madea? Because no self-respecting black woman would play such a character. It’s not a far walk from Madea to Big Momma’s House… He’s got a lot of fantasies about what strong women look like, but they sure do not match reality. So why do I watch? Because his movies are free on TBS or BET and a little righteous anger is a nice distraction from my dissertation.BTW: Perry was on Conan, and said the reason he doesn’t preview his shows is that the one time he did, it got panned by the critics (gee, wonder why). So now he just makes his movies “for the people.” So I think Lion’s Gate just goes along with his edict.

  5. Anonymous Avatar

    It was horribly and incredibly ba as evidenced by your blog. I have enjoyed tyler perry in the past like “Why Did I get Married” and “Diary of a Mad Black Woman”. With, “Why Did I get Married” being best.But, this one was by far the very worst Tyler Perry production! It had absolutely no working plot. Just random scenes. I agree the slap was very disconcerting. You helped me determin exactly why the film was so bad.

  6. His movies irritate me not because they are bad, but because they are bad with a large budget and A-list-ish actors and actresses (As AList as black actors can get these days)… with his current resources he could really do something awesome that Blacks from all walks of life can really appreciate and love. I hate when people have the stage or platform to really make a mark but insist on puttng out lackluster material, so it is not just about hating onTyler Perry, I’m an equal oppurtunity hater, lol…..

  7. I think the black community should support black film makers but I think we should also demand superior film making. I am tired of less than mediocre films by and about black people. When Diary of a Mad Black Woman came out just the name alone turned me off.

  8. i try to be supportive of black films whenever i can, but i approach most of tyler’s films with my fingers over my nose…they just make me cringe…i will not go to the theatre to see tyler’s movies, i usually get to see them either on cable or someone will lend me a movie…all i have to say is tyler is on the forbes list and about to hit the billion dollar mark…that being said, i will still wait for the cable version and then, i keep the remote nearby just in case…

  9. anonymous 6:30 p.m.: Take some solace in the fact that I don’t think Perry’s films are “ghetto” or that only people of a particular class like them. I just think they’re poorly made. That’s why I spent the bulk of my post comparing his film with similar black films that with the notable exception of my “The Color Purple” reference are not known as high art, but fun, popcorn flicks.Perry’s popcorn hath no butter and is burnt for he doesn’t know how to properly pop popcorn. The fundamentals are not sound. You can make cheesy crap, just be able to meet the minimum threshold of the craft.Draven7 and others: My lack of understanding why it had to be so slipshod was what drove me over the edge. I understand why people like melodrama and vaudeville because even I get into the mood for it from time to time, but whatever good that movie could have been was wasted in the fact that he couldn’t even take the time to take the art form to at least a hack level. I mean, hack level. That’s “give a shit” level. Not rocket science. That’s a Tamra Davis* level. Tamra is a “hack” director who directed “Crossroads” (starring Britney Spears), “CB4,” “Half-Baked,” “Billy Madison” and several episodes of “Grey’s Anatomy.” She doesn’t make much art, but she can get shit done and there is always work for a good, solid hack who knows her basics and keep things moving. If Perry could just get himself up to hack quality, my God, he could probably get money out of me and many other “film snobbish” black people as I own CB4, “don’t hate” Billy Madison and love Grey’s Anatomy.Consider it, Perry! If you can’t do it yourself. Just hire Tamra Davis! She’s a hack and that woman has never met a screenplay she wouldn’t attempt to make lemonade from.

  10. Dang, I guess I won’t be seeing it this weekend with my friends. I love how everyone knows it’s just going to be a variation of the same storyline, but we go see it anyway. I guess I should break the habit.

  11. Lamentably . . . I agree Snob. I enjoyed the movie because I knew what I was getting into and consequently was able to “look past” certain things. I think he’s a bit lazy and inattentive to detail but gives his “audience” what they’re looking for. He can predict the parts that will garner the “Oh no he didn’” or “Oh, My, Damn!”, etc. I also enjoyed “Why Did I Get Married” and “Diary of a Mad Black Woman” but I found the same flaws with them as well. Ah well . . .

  12. artchess: No! Go see it. I need people to discuss it with. I want to know if it was just me! And if I am right, I need everyone to sign onto my new campaign to persuade Tyler Perry to take it up a notch.I’m going to call it:”Dear Tyler Perry, please let Malcolm Lee direct all your films from now on(Or Tamra Davis or Paul WS Anderson). Yours truly, people who would watch your films if you’d let someone who drove past a film school and saw ‘Pulp Fiction’ once direct.”He already makes money, but he’ll make more this way. Trust me. And there will be a lot less bitching from people like who go into fits when there’s not enough character development or if the thing is shot and chopped bad.And once again, it is OK to like his films. I just want to encourage him to consider using hacks. They work cheap! And he might crossover, if that is what he so desires!

  13. There is really no excuse for his lack of technique and laziness, but I guess since he struggled for years and was briefly homeless he just doesn’t want to hear it. I wonder if the resistance he got from Hollywood initially stemmed from racism or the poor quality of his films. I think racism had a lot to do with it because there are a lot of crappy movies with poorly written scripts out there.

  14. “When I read how others saw this film I wonder if they were grading on a curve. Or maybe his previous films were so poorly executed that by comparison this one was brilliant.”*DEAD*I’ve been telling folks this about Tyler Perry films for years but I always fall short of damn near being stoned to def. It’s nice to see that we share a similar opinion. Actually, you can take this same review but change the name of the TP flick and replace character names accordingly for each of his films. Same ish different story (literally).

  15. Dang Snob.I saw it over the weekend and I loved it. I’m not crazy about all of Tyler’s films; but I figured out a long time ago that he wouldn’t be Spike Lee. It’s the Pandora’s box. He can either be a critically acclaimed director with little box office return or Tyler can be who he is and create a happy medium for the majority of black folks to enjoy.I understand your frustration as The Snob and the *cough elitist cough*. Hell…the hubby and I went to see “Vicki Cristina Barcelona” by Woody Allen and we loved it. It was awesome. But trust we were the only black folks in that sold out theatre. Most black folks aren’t on the “film” tip. Most of us watch “movies.” We wanna laugh, cry, sing music, rejoice, show emotion, and feel good when we spend our $10; not be served a Master’s Thesis.Most black directors get in where they fit in. And with the exception of Spike Lee; most have chosen to go the “blockbuster” route because it just doesn’t pay to go all “high and mighty” with black audiences. You will lose them every time. After “RoseWood” John Singleton didn’t play around cause serving black audiences with a sprinkling of interested YT’s is the pits. I think about great films such as “Get on the Bus”,”The Great Debaters” and “Love Jones” and their disappointing box office numbers. It’s got to burn to know that as a whole your own people are simply just “not that interested.”Filmaking boils down to business. And there’s something to be said about funding a fiim and Return on investment. Let’s just see how well “Miracle on St. Anna” does.

  16. BTW Snob.Wasn’t that White Guy in Tyler’s film the a most bloated unattractive poor man’s Marlon Brando?No apologies here. He is fug.

  17. Danielle, I’m in total agreement with you on Perry. Also, for the record, I made a big typo in my last comment. I said “schlong” when I meant to say “schlock,” which made the whole sentence incomprehensible. Maybe it was a Freudian slip or maybe I shouldn’t try to use Yiddish since I’m not Jewish, although I’m a quarter German. At any rate, the other phallic reference was completely intentional. Tyler’s movies do bite the big one.

  18. You got me scurred to see it. I’ve never been a fan of Tyler Perry but I still love Diary of a Mad Black Woman if for no other reason than Kimberly Elise could convince me to eat Salmon eventhough I know the allergic reaction could kill me.

  19. Get Togetha: But wait! I don’t want or expect Perry to be Spike Lee! I just want him to follow the bare minimum rules of storytelling or at least hire a hack director, one who will still institute his vision of the project, but at least knows film well enough to make sure things make sense. That’s ALL I’m asking. The majority of films I reference in this piece (with the exception of The Color Purple) are not high cinema. They are the works of hacks, but manage to be entertaining because you’re not distracted by sloppy storytelling and glitches you wouldn’t even find in a Lifetime movie.I mean, “Two Can Play That Game?” He can’t rise to the level of “coherent” storytelling and craftsmanship of “Two Can Play That Game?” Or “The Brothers?” Or “The Preacher’s Wife?” It’s not that hard! That’s what I’m upset for, the complete disregard in learning how properly utilize film as a medium to tell his stories.He doesn’t have to be Spike Lee. He could be Malcolm Lee or the aforementioned Tamra Davis or Paul WS Anderson or hundreds of the other hack directors who can shoot and chop a film to a C- grade. They’re not great directors, they’re not good, they are merely satisfactory when it comes to formulating the bare minimum on film.So Perry can still do everything he already does, he could just do it competently! His films are the equivalent of novels with run-on sentences and typos. He could aspire to a “Booty Call” level of hackery! I’d actually enjoy his films if he could just learn Filmmaking 101! I can’t get over the laziness and poor ass covering in the story lines!That said, Cole Hauser did look like he’s been sucking down a few hot dogs since I saw him on K-Ville more than a year ago. And he seemed hotter on K-Ville.He was not shot in the best light (and didn’t have enough make-up for the pockmarks), although not all of the makeup crew was phoning it in. Sanaa Lathan’s hair was shot and styled fantastically. For me, it was the best part of the movie.

  20. Lisa: No. I implore you to see it! I need to know I’m not the only one who couldn’t even enjoy the camp factor of the film because they could not get over the shoddy filmmaking.I just want things to be competent! I own “CB4.” That’s not high art, but there’s a beginning, middle and end with sufficient climax and character development. With those things out of the way I could focus on determining whether or not Khandi Alexander’s portrayal of blackmailing gold digger was offensive or not. Or if Chris Rock was “funny.” Or if Allen Payne could be more delicious.I decided it was all funny even though, it’s not really the best movie. But it’s fundamentals are sound and that’s what you need to get right first. That doesn’t stop you from being as over-the-top or as sappy as you’d like — it makes your over-the-top sap better!

  21. Tyler has a new production company deal with Lionsgate and that company will produce films written by other people. The exec running the company is Matt Moore who used to be at New Line.I’m curious to see what type of movies Tyler will produce vs. the ones he directs.Tyler is self taught and he had made so much money nobody can tell him anything. His TV series is printing money even though it received the worst reviews I’ve ever read. Hollywood doesn’t care about the quality of his films because as you know we (black people) have no taste and will see anything, except good dramas like Antoine Fisher. I’ve had white executives say this to my face. I’m happy for TP and that so many people get to work. I do however, wonder what is up with the females roles? Black Snob you def. picked up on something. t

  22. nyc/caribbean ragazza: I’m happy for them too (although I’ll probably never watch another film by Perry). I don’t like to see my black actors go unemployed even if it means reading lines from an old teleplay from “Melrose Place.”Per the women folk, I really wondered what was up with EVERYONE considering the broad brush they were painted with, but I just didn’t get the demonization of college educated people (although they did have Robin Givens, “good” professional woman, as a balance.)I also couldn’t get over how it was painfully obvious that Perry did not research into the business world he had his characters operation in. Listening to people make up business lingo and contract particulars was highly distracting.Once again, “Booty Call” has a better understanding of its source material and of basic filmmaking fundamentals than Perry’s film and “Booty Call” is a borderline reprehensible piece of crap. I can tell he’s self-taught. That’s obvious. But I don’t think there’s anything wrong with saying that if this were a Meg Ryan film and it was this poorly staged, no one, white or black, would watch it. But Perry has a built-in audience/cash machine that is willing to forgive the huge gap in his learning curve. And I know these people know there’s a gap because anyone who watches scripted television and popcorn flicks on a regular basis understands tangentially what is and isn’t supposed to be in a movie.These people know there are some things lacking and choose to love him otherwise. That is beautiful, but drives me nuts as a lover of both the high and low-brow in film.After all, “Big Mama’s House,” which I also hated, made sense and made me laugh at least four or five times. I laughed once during “The Family That Preys” and spent the rest of the time wondering why the plot holes had to be so gaping and why the dialog was unnatural and why everyone was doing so much shouting and eye rolling that I thought there would be seizures.This could have been really good camp. Like “BAPS” or “Sparkle.” Sigh. What a waste.

  23. I hear you Ms. Snob. I thought Pottie Tang was funny and we know that is definitely not high art. haAs long as TP movies make money Lionsgate will keep making them. I went to a screening of Diary of Mad Black Woman at the studio.A black manager/producer I know was so angry about the movie he went off on one of the LG execs. At the premiere, a famous black congresswoman said it was one of the best movies she’s seen because it was the truth. uhm okay.Tyler knows his audience really well. I went to see Madea’s Family Reunion at the Kodak Center. My co-worker and I were invited by his agent.It was like being in a very fun church. The crowd was so into it. His movies are very preachy but his audience loves it. There is some wish fulfillment (look at that big house!) and his audience gets to enjoy watching elitist negros who have strayed from the Lord get smacked down.

  24. …Perry’s popcorn hath no butter and is burnt for he doesn’t know how to properly pop popcorn…Well said. 🙂

  25. I saw the movie and I liked it, I do have to say, that I do still agree with the lack of proper info, the whole time I was wondering w.t.f? Like he was really hitting on her at the wedding? and why did she have such disdane for her “people” I do wifh it would have gone into much more but still I did enjoy it if only because Ms Lathan and Ms, Givens were flawless lookin in it to me. Anywho, I do hope that he (Perry) steps it up and gives us something to truly look foward to instead of just black movies.Peace and Love.

  26. I’m not a fan of Perry’s works either. They all come off as too simple (plot) and not great acting…It all comes off so low-brow. Don’t even get me started on the TV sitcom of his.But I thought it was because I’ve never been a fan of “Christian Theatre” where Perry gained his fame and clientele.

  27. That’s why I’m so glad I decided to watch Burn After Reading instead of the Perry flick. Some guy told me that I just had to see that movie and I told him that I did not need to see that movie. Why on earth would I pay for that torture. I’ll just wait for my mom to buy it when it comes out and I’ll torture myself for free. I just can’t get with Tyler Perry, nor his works. Maybe he should take some time off and actually write and think out a good story and film, instead of throwing crap together and shovelling it to the masses.

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    jarrett-carter.com

    Have mercy on “Miracle at St. Anna.”

  29. You know I agree with your review of the film. I don't agree with the insinuation that people who watch/enjoy them are dumb/uneducated. However, I think that I am less negative about the movie because I skipped one Tyler Perry movie – Meet The Browns – I don't spend hard-earned money on hackneyed comedy. I would still prefer that people see this instead of Meet The Browns. (and before I go any further yes the slap was disconcerting).At least in this movie he attempts (key word: attempts) to portray black characters as more than the following:a. the token/random black characterb. the hoe/hoochie/baby mamac. The loud-mouth "oh-no-he-didn't character"d. the broke down black man that would only reinforce "there are no good black men" thinkingInstead he tries (B+ for effort??) the following:a. the black WOMAN is the one having an affair (removes the all black men are crap theory)b. the two WOMEN are the strongest (I use the word loosely) charactersc. The mother is a business ownerd. Sanaa's character is Ivy League educated (as is Robin Givens)e. The two black men (Dunbar & Perry) are successful at opening their own business.Does Tyler know his audience? Of course. The be frank, You are NOT his audience. He is truly is catering to those who have a slightly warped view of the black community and who can only wrap their heads around 1 or 2 stereotypes. Here he tries to break the mold – he does the best he can – you did say he was self taught. While you may not like Tyler Perry films, you have to admit that without them you (and others, myself included) would still be complaining that the only black character in a movie is always a hoochie, a broke down man, a preacher, a hair obsessed woman, [insert other BLATANTLY IRRITATING STEREOTYPE], etc. Forget his lack of skills (or need for hacks like you said), you will only give yourself panic attacks – I like reading this blog so no panic attacks for you Ms. Snob

  30. I disagree. Why does anyone black or white have to be given an explanation of why someone ends up being an evil bitch with a dumbass husband, or why a son & mother hate each other? Why do we need to know why two people decide to have an affair? If anything, the opposite is true. Intelligent movie buffs do not need these things explained when it's just fun to watch a bitch be a bitch. And I loved Sanaa in that role. It was about time. Who cares why Kathy and Alfre's characters are best friends? None of that matters and I'll tell you why. It's because reasons are made up. In real life something happens to you (car crash, stubbed toe, lost love, job reduction, find $5 in coat pocket, cheat on a test, stay with an abusive husband/wife) and our human reaction is to say what that means or give a reasons why. The truth is reasons are MADE UP. They are not necessarily true. Our lives are made up of reasons. It's great to have the development we have as humans because we don't have to rely on instinct (unless you ride the train everyday).Anyway the reasons why people cheat, hate their parents and become real bitches are played out. I think Tyler trusts his audience to not really give a shit because in the end does it really matter. And you did not mention how great it was to at least see Robin Givens on the screen. She was fabulous. She said what we wanted to say. She's a character that loves her husband. Do we need to know why she loves her husband? Do we need to know why the secretary is drunk? Why don't we also find out why Tyler was wearing an afro? Tyler is doing his own thing with his OWN money. His studio. Spike can't say that unless it's a vehicle with a broader appeal. Tyler is a humble man and does not deserve this.

  31. Anonymous Avatar

    Snob, I saw this film over the weekend and it was much more enjoyable than his previous films, that’s for sure, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the movie is good in general. It’s great compared to other Tyler Perry films…but it’s crappy when compared to other films not produced by Tyler Perry.For once, he did not have the characters in the film explain everydamnthing, which he does ALL THE TIME. In “Why Did I Get Married”, it was “Isn’t it great we all went to HBCU’s and are doing so well! Joe just made partner at the firm, I’m a successful pediatrician, you’re a successful architect”. In “Madea’s Family Reunion”, I remember being SO PISSED OFF at the beginning of the movie when he had Lisa explain to her OWN SISTER what Carlos’ job was “again”. IF SHE IS YOUR SISTER, HOW THE HELL DOES SHE NOT KNOW WHAT HE DOES FOR A LIVING? That was NOT a conversation you would be having this late in an engagement.So as you can tell (LOL), I HATE when he does that because it’s LAZINESS, just like you said.This go around he kept that to a minimum, but I agree with you in that he should have explained more about the relationships between the characters. Sanaa’s character had no reason to be THAT much of a bitch. I know her daddy left, but that’s not enough. He needs more people. And as for her stupid husband, I have no words.Also, the “long suffering church lady” that he loves showed up as Alfre Woodard. Her character actually annoyed me the most. Of course, he had the requisite church scene with folks getting “moved by the spirit”. Pardon me while I roll my eyes.So basically, he stuck to the same script that rakes in the dough for him. His target demographic is black woman over the age of 35…the same black women who went to go see his plays when he was struggling in Atlanta. They adore him and his films so that’s who he caters to.

  32. I haven’t seen it. I’d rather see Burn After Reading. :-)I DID enjoy a few of Tyler Perry’s movies though. Diary of a Mad, Black Woman was a good one and there’s one more that I can’t remember that was okay.By the previews, I couldn’t get the gist of the movie–you know how sometimes you can kind of get an idea of where the movie might go from the previews? Yeah, well with The Family that Preys, I didn’t get it. Seemed so dissected in the previews.I always thought Cole Hauser was handsome. Too bad he’s bloated in this one… sad to hear that. LOL!

  33. Snob.With all due respect I want to add to the larger picture (pun intended) of what Tyler Perry has accomplished. He’s given blactors work, he makes audiences feel good, the brother used to live in his car for Christ sake!, and even though it’s easy to criticize Perry’s films I just don’t think we understand what people have to go through to get a film made. I live in NYC and there are plenty of independent black film directors with no money going nowhere fast. Hollywood won’t green light those films; cause no one wants to take that risk. So yes! Money is going to affect that weakass story line that you’d wish he’d fix. I just think its too easy to lambast Perry and it most certainly is not a black issue cause there are plenty of white films that don’t make the cut. We are only 13 percent of the population. And our stories are generally not successful in international markets. If it were easy in Perry’s shoes there would be more of us doing it. All of the onus wouldn’t have to be on Perry to deliver better quality. There would be more Spikes, Hughes Brothers,Witcher’s Lemmons, Fuqua’s, and Singleton’s. The people that merit our films don’t see the worth in our stories outside of stereotypes. People of color are not on the executive side of making things happen. Whatever happened to Theodore Witcher? He made “Love Jones” and disappeared. “Talk to Me” by Kasi Lemmons…another great film that bit the box office dust….CB4? That’s easy…ghetto gansters and comedy? Two for one special. Did it come with bullet proof Chinese?Distribution is the final frontier. I agree that Perry’s films are a homogenous hosh posh of feel good preachiness. But they work and they deliver. I loved this post; but the people that need to understand this dialogue are not the people that wanna hear it. If my brother’s in jail, I have diabetes, I never knew my father, I got a GED, and I’ve finally been saved by Jesus Christ I don’t care about Perry’s run on sentences. Snob. This is totally a class issue.I used to lean more towards the shortsighted critical side of why black folks can’t do better; until I tried to do something on my own and realized how cotdamn challenging it is to get something of my own off the ground. I’m not saying that because folks are black they can’t be criticized; (Cause frankly today’s bleak music scene leaves me totally uninspired)…but dang….give Perry a break. Getting a film to the cutting floor and having your own film studio is inspiring as hell. And keeps me motivated to do my own thing when I just want to give up.Hopefully Perry will make enough duckets to make those films that will serve the bourgeoisie audience. (That would be me…)

  34. damn. i loved the trailer. It seemed seriously suspensful. and i’m thinking these two families lives have been entwined (for years or centuries) by sexual and financial indiscretions. I’m thinking “oh shit Tyler is doing the damn thing.”*crash*then comes your review. *sigh* i can’t go see this at the movies if its just another b.s. “mama i’m rich now so i don’t need your backwards ass” movie. i can’t deal with another one of those pieces of excrement!i’ve never been a big fan of tyler perry. his films always just seemed so…lame. so i never paid real money to see them. if they happen to come on cable then i can throw them on in the background while i’m cleaning the house or playing my DS. well, that checks one movie off my list.

  35. Once again, for the Perry fans, I’m not knocking Perry’s hustle. I don’t mind the content, I was criticizing the poor execution of the filmmaking. Also, I think it’s perfectly fine to be critical of any filmmaker no matter where they came from or what race they are. You either like something or you don’t and I’ve admitted that I’m obviously not Perry’s audience. I simply expect character development. I mean, under that logic I should basically love all black entertainers and athletes who become successful because they built something from nothing. I respectfully disagree. I’m not a fan of the rapper Nelly and he also started from zero to become a businessman and millionaire. That doesn’t make me like his music.My point with other black films with similar budgets it’s obvious those directors have had some formal training hence they know how to tell a story.And for the record, I like Spike but I don’t like all his films (Crooklyn makes my eyes roll). I hate almost all of John Singleton’s films. I also hate films by Italian American director Brian De Palma because they look great but often have no payoff. It’s OK to be critical. When you put your stuff out there you know that as a artist you are inviting some criticism. When I blog things I am inviting criticism. I can’t hide behind the guise that I’m black and I built this blog from the bottom up so you can’t criticism my views.That’s insane. Of course you can.And I also said that Perry was successful despite his flaws BECAUSE he has cultivated an audience who likes his films in spite of those flaws.I’m not bashing the man. I am bashing the technique because it shows that he has no training in filmmaking. That was what drove me mad. Tis all.

  36. Anonymous Avatar

    Thank you, Black people, for finally forcing Tyler to come to grips with his egregious lack of skill in bringing a good story to the big screen. Perry doesn’t screen for critics because they (justifiably) trash his work. He has been able to hide behind the mediocrity of Madea because his loyal Black audience busts the box office no matter how flimsy the flick. Finally, like a family intervention, we are coming clean. Speak Truth To Power, Ty!

  37. Also, I want to remind folks that I never once called his movies low class or ghetto and that I said I agreed that they could be enjoyed by people regardless of class status. I enjoy both high and low brow films. “The Brothers” is not high class cinema.But you have to look past the problems.get Togetha: I’m WELL aware (as of film buff) how hard it is for any black director to get a film made. I remember Kasi Lemmons machinations to get “Eve’s Bayou” done, Spike Lee’s struggles to get financing for “Malcolm X,” Rusty Cundieff feeling cheated because while he finished his “Fear of a Black Hat” first, he couldn’t get a distributor and the inferior “CB4” came out first, clouding his rap parody’s effort. And as you acknowledged Hollywood is full of broken dreams for black filmmakers. I know how hard it is.Vondie Curtis Hall, Antonie Faqua, John Singleton, Mario Van Peebles, Forrest Whitaker are all directors who struggle to get a “black” film made. Perry has found a sure fire way to get his films made and be successful, something none of the aforementioned directors have done.That still doesn’t mean I can’t criticize the product he creates.And I did acknowledge in the post and in the comments that Perry does employ great black actors. He doesn’t do much with them, but he gives them jobs and I do appreciate that. I don’t like the idea of my Sanaa and my Rockmond starving. I hope in his next film he’ll give Jill Marie Jones a job. I’m sure she could use the cash.

  38. I don’t like Tyler Perry’s plays, movies, or his absolutely horrible TV show. I don’t begrudge him his success or anything. I don’t think his works are “ghetto,” either. I just think that nothing he puts his hands on is polished. The acting, the dialogue, the plots – it’s ALWAYS incomplete and/or substandard with him. And there ARE plenty of other works by directors/producers of other ethnicities out there that are unpolished, incomplete, and substandard, but you know what? I’d say the same thing about their stuff. Especially if the shortcomings were as GLARING as they are in Tyler Perry’s films. And I’m not even well versed in the elements of filmmaking, I’m just not entertained. There’s no subtlety, no nuance, nothing unpredictable… I’ll watch his films. But only for free. When there’s nothing else on tv.Perry doesn’t get a pass because he was homeless or he hires black actors. You still have to be good at what you do, and entertaining. When I go to work, nobody says, “Oh well, she’s from the hood, so it’s okay if she doesn’t perform,” or “Let’s not hold her to the same standards because people who look like her are underrepresented in her field.” If someone did, that would do me a disservice, and anyone who’s affected by what I do. Why should it be any different with Tyler Perry?I have absolutely no plans to go to the movies to see “Preys.” Sorry Snob, but you got to go for free. Not so for me, LOL!

  39. Anonymous Avatar

    I am so tired of Black people giving kudos to Black people with money and power who produce crap. There is a place for garbage, for hackery, as the Snob says. That place is to make money to produce work that lasts. This is a problem we Black people seem to have. We always think it’s OK if something makes money now—the present is all we seem to care about. Film can be art. Back in the day, the studio bosses would make B-movies. This was deliberate. We don’t know the names of those films today. MGM made a gazillion musicals. Most of them we don’t watch today, most of them we don’t know about. We know only about the ones that we had high artistic standards, which played in their day and still are enjoyable in ours. Art can increase in value and this applies to films too. Those old studio bosses knew the need to create a library, a catalogue, which would continue to make money for as long as possible. As a result, you can rent movies on Netflix that were made 40, 50, 60 years ago. And the people renting them are not 80 years old either. These old films, year after year, have new audiences because they are good enough to do that.Alfred Hitchcock has been dead since 1980. I watched Vertigo the other night and it still is one of the best and sickest films about obsessive love and it makes me wonder every time I see it. A friend is taking a film class in Hitchcock right now and they are arguing about movies that are 50, 40 years old. They can do that because the art holds up.Will the art hold up in Tyler Perry’s movies? No. Will anyone be talking about them in 40 years? No. Is he creating something of value for the generations that come after him? No. No, he’s cranking out whatever so he can make his money now. I am glad for his success, but if he doesn’t change things up he won’t have a legacy, either financially or artistically. Call me elitist, but if you have any kind of thought life, this is something you should understand especially if you’re Black. We need Black legacies in America. We need to create art and commerce that will benefit the current and future generations. I don’t like Spike Lee personally, but he does have a legacy. His work (not all of it, but much of it) will be studied in the future. It will make money in the future. Lehman Brothers crashed the other day, but it had been in business for more than 100 years. And on a less deep note, I too am tired of Perry making out educated, Black women who want to make money to be these pathologically neurotic freaks who can’t manage their own lives. As a result they have to marry a good solid church going truck driver or bus driver or construction worker brother to help them get it together. Give me a freaking break. Actually I think TP has that problem with that kind of Black woman because he wants to be one of us. I truly believe he is closeted. I enjoy seeing Black people on screen, I can enjoy Black hack work too, but from Tyler Perry enough is enough. It’s time for him to enroll in a filmmaking class at UCLA, or if he doesn’t want to go to school, have a series of long conversations with Quentin Tarantino or Robert Rodriguez. Thanks, as always, Snob, for being a snob. It’s so refreshing to know I’m not alone.

  40. No apologies are necessary for those offering a critical review of Perry’s work, although I think his defenders do make some excellent points. Still, at the risk of sounding like a total sycophantic dittohead, I agree with Danielle more. I just hope that instead of staying home and counting his money, Perry realizes his limitations and gets competent people around him to shore up the skills that he obviously lacks, or at least find a mentor or good screenwriting/directing course to take. If he wants to grow as a filmmaker, he can also improve his craft by reaching out beyond the 35-year-old black woman demographics, who are more accepting of his flaws than the rest of us. I’m turning 48 next month and I like an old fart story I can relate to.

  41. toysoldier1913 Avatar
    toysoldier1913

    Thank you, thank you, thank you. I wrote a quick review of this movie & why I hated it on my blog. But I didn't have the desire nor the energy to lay out ALL of the facts the way you've done.As a result, there are a few folks who've encouraged me "not to take it so seriously."***Sigh.***Thank you for laying it out there intelligently.

  42. Tyler Perry & Beyonce: Top two black people that have subpar talent but excellent charisma, and get black folk's panties in a bunch on blogs.Q

  43. BINGO. you said exactly what i was thinking. in short…it was like a really long soap opera. plot point after plot point. line after line. no background. thanks!shaun

  44. mynameismyname Avatar
    mynameismyname

    Snob,Wonderful assessment on Mr. Perry’s film. I haven’t seen it and don’t really intend to, although my mother mentioned a desire to see it. But then again, she may part of the intended demo for the film. I agree, Perry, is obviously a playwright, not a filmmaker, so there will glaring flaws in story structure and direction that any film buff would pick up on. But GetTogetha has a point, does the average filmgoer notice or even care about all of that? They just wanna suck up popcorn seeds and laugh/gasp/cry, right? Most of the films that rank $100 million and more are mere popcorn flicks. The high-art films get critical love but does the average person have the same interest? About Perry …I actually went to one of his stage plays a year or two ago with some relatives. It was entitled “Madea Goes To Jail”. The stucture of the play was extremely predictable but entertaining enough for two hours. The (sold-out) crowd was mostly black, but there was a wide range of ages there: children, pre-teens/teens, parents, elderly, twentysomethings-you name it, they were there laughing along. It’s also important to note although “we” seemed to be the majority of the audience there that day, there were still a sizeable white presence. This leads me to my next point: I have a part time job at a library. I often have to sort out their media room (which houses the DVDs/VHS’s, magazines, CDs, etc.). I often see what the patrons view and check out. I can tell you with assurity that white patrons OFTEN check out the “black” movies. Sometimes, more than the black patrons. Our Tyler Perry fare (his films, stage plays and his TV series) is always in circulation and they’re usually checked out by the WHITE patrons! Believe it or not. Once I saw an East Asian woman check out a DVD of “Why Did I Get Married?” and a South Asian family gawking over a disc from the first season of “House Of Payne”.So, I really find the idea that the audience for a “black” film isn’t broad enough to be BS. Black artists run the Billboard pop charts, so without a doubt with the proper promotion, “black” films can muster the same success.

  45. i can't believe that so many of you hated this movie. not every black director has to be spike lee or denzel washington. most movies made today are just as awful as y'all claim TP movies to be. does being black mean that he has to do an incredibly amazing job every time he goes to the box office?? while i don't think that we should accept mediocrity from our own people, we should be glad for all of the people who are encouraged by his movies, and all of the kids who are inspired to get into film b/c he allows them to see themselves in the industry.(tho i'll note that you snob did point out that a lot of other black movies are awful – e.g. everything made by vivica fox is atrocious …so u'r not just hating on TP)but if u hate him so much, then u should be encouraging your director friends to go out there and try their hand at directing a great movie about black culture. democracy allows for competition, so if no one's going to challenge him, then u can't really be mad, now can u?i personally loved the movie- http://www.notyourmamasreligion.com/articles_view.asp?columnid=5013&articleid=49575maybe Snob, you should host a fan competition for best ideas for movies on black culture that would knock the socks off of Tyler Perry.

  46. Money is money people.That’s the long and the short of it. And while I agree with your comments D, GetTogetha also makes excellent points. So we could go back and forth about TP all day.Bottom line is when white people make a flop, they get several chances to redeem themselves. TP doesn’t have that luxury. If ONE of his movies tanks, he’s done. So he keeps churning out the same plot line for every movie cause he knows that’s what majority of his audience wants to see and will ultimately pay for. I understand where he is coming from and I can’t say I blame him.I went to see “The Women” this weekend and there is a new period film coming out called “The Duchess” with Keira Kneightly. I wondered: “Why do they never make period films with black folks in it?” Clearly we were around, even as slaves. But then I thought how many of us would go see a black 14th century film? You have to cater to your audience and that is precisely what Tyler’s doing. Is it necessarily best? Maybe not. But it is a step so that one day another director can come along who WILL be able to direct and produce that 14th century film…James Carville will be at Philander Smith College tonight! Mama Snob would be so proud!

  47. Thought “Diary of a Mad Black Woman” was decent enough. My wife rented “Meet the Browns” recently and that was a tolerable DVD (probably would have been angry had I paid good money to see it in the theaters).But I may have to go see this one with the wife if for no other reason than, as far as I can see in the credits, there is one redeeming quality lacking from so many of Perry’s films that I’ve seen or am aware of……Medea ain’t in it!

  48. Anonymous Avatar

    Around the time August Wilson wrote his last lines of dialogue, Tyler Perry emerged asthe media’s appointed African American creative darling. And I shudder to think that thiswas no accident. But Wilson and Perry are as far apart as you can get, creatively. They ‘re black, yes. Both men have display more than a passing interest in the supernatural in their creative catalogues. AndI imagine they both used pencils. But comparing the scarred and well-trodden fronts in the genealogical trench warfare of Wilson’s FENCES with Perry’s dramatically feeble DIARY OFA MAD BLACK WOMEN is an assault on all five senses. And the sixth if one believes in such gifts. The apple to oranges analogy doesn’t suffice in measuring the two writers. Care for a little hyperbole? I offer that famous jump cut from Stanley Kubrick’s 2001 A Space Odyssey. Wilson is the manned space station glidingly through space, the tangible testimony to all that man has willed himself to learn, know and do well though the millennia. Perry is the primate in the cuts’ first half, millions of years removed from even the abacus, joyfully banging bone against bone.The most rigorously followed postmodernist approach to appreciating Perry’s catalogue (to this point) still suffers to locate a creative core. That’s not a failure on the part of the Ebert and Ropers of the world. There isn’t one to be found. He is, as Snob has so rightly declared, a world-class hack: the undisputed heavyweight champion of schlock ferociously defending the sensibilities ofhis audience against plot points and—not to be dismissed—agnostic story telling.One uses Wilson as a starting point for two reasons. First, Perry started as a playwright. Most of the work he’s becoming best knows for is—more or less—adapted for the screen. Second, Wilson was the preeminent African American literary voice of his generation and, arguably, of his medium. The plays of James Baldwin make for feeble entertainment. And we’re far enough away from the rough and tumble staged experiments of the late 70’s to declare that LeRoi Jones and Ed Bullins are minor players in the black stage saga. There is Loraine Hansberry, then Wilson and that’s it. Let’s call a jug a jug and not pretend it’s a vase, okay? Tyler Perry is a conduit for siphoning the disposable dollars of the black movie loving underclass and dumping it into the purses of his studio heads. Class is the dominator with Perry’s work. Just as it is with white readers who heart Tom Clancy a little more than they do Saul Bellow.In summary, If you have a library card you’re probably not a Tyler Perry fan.

  49. “Perry is not good enough to be called a hack.”This is very true. There are so few people in Hollywood who have the power (or the inclination) to make decent films with black people in them, and Perry blows it every single time. At least you went for free. I know plenty of people who pay for this nonsense and send enthusiastic e-mail forwards encouraging others to “Make this movie No. 1!” Um, no.

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